What Childhood Lessons Can You Never Give Up?
The other day, I was lounging in bed, watching back-to-back Good Hang With Amy Poehler episode clips, as one does. During her interview with Tom Holland, the British actor admitted something that made me laugh out loud…
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For his upcoming movie Spiderman: Brand New Day, Holland plays NYC-born-and-raised Peter Parker. But while rehearsing scenes, Holland kept getting stuck on a cultural difference. “In England, [when you order food] you say, ‘Please, may I have the burger with number two? Thank you so much, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you,’” says Holland. “And in America, it’s totally fine to be like, ‘I’ll have the number two,’ and just leave it at that…I would be doing scenes and my dialect coach would come in and be like ‘Stop saying ‘please.’ A kid from New York’s not going to be saying please if you’re asking for a burger.’
So, in the end, what did he do? Our dear Holland went against his UK grain and stuck to the script.
“You can see this moment in the movie where someone asks me for a coffee and I just go ‘Sure,’” laughs Tom. “And even through the suit, you can see that I’m like, My dad is going to be so disappointed in meeeee.”
Honestly, I get it! As a 33-year-old, I still follow certain rules that my mother engrained into my very being. Here are a few:
* If I ever meet someone who greets me in Spanish, I must follow my hola with a ¿Cómo estás? (‘How are you?’), even though my Spanish is too limited to continue the conversation after that.
* Always hold the door open for the person walking behind you, even if that means standing there for 30 awkward second waiting for them.
* Brush your teeth AS SOON AS YOU WAKE UP. No ifs, ands, or buts.
I’m curious: What are the lessons you learned as a kid that you still live by to this day? Please weigh in!
P.S. An ode to family rituals, and what are your dad’s rules for life?

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As a Ghanaian young woman, my mom taught me these three things growing up that have shaped who I am today. Always say thank you, please, and sorry. First, appreciate what people genuinely do for you. Second, respect your elders and never forget to say please. Third, always take responsibility for your actions and apologize when you hurt others. The bonus one is, if someone gifts you something, always call the person the next morning to thank them even if you did immediately you received the item. It shows that you’re grateful and more will be welcomed. I’ve made it a point to teach all my children these life principles, starting with my son.
This is lovely, Paulina. It reminds me a bit of the four statements that Louise Penny’s Quebecois detective, Armand Gamache, teaches his new trainees: “I don’t know. I need help. I’m sorry. I was wrong.” For a profession that used toxic masculinity as its main currency (police work), the idea of admitting one’s uncertainty and seeking help, support, forgiveness, or accountability was radical. I exercise these four, too!
My dad always makes a little cross on his heart when going by a graveyard or a church, and now I do it too and always think of him.
My step-father was a curmudgeon, when I was 7, I had no idea what my mother was thinking, he was a bear. There were many rules, but the one that sticks with me to this day (they are both since passed) is that when mom was putting the meal on the table, we sat at the table and did not move a muscle until she sat down. Then once she was seated, she started to fill her plate first. She was always the first one to take from each item then pass to one of us. Of course as a child, I did not understand how amazingly lovely and respectful this was toward my mom. It stays with me as a honorable memory of him. It makes me a bit cringy when I am making a meal, putting it on the table and my husband is already 5 forkfuls in before I even sit down.
Yes, in our family no one takes a bite until the hostess has sat down and had her first bite. My mom surrounded by her grandboys watching her like hawks as she makes her way to the table, luxuriously takes a sip of tea, and finally indulgently takes a bite of cake. lol
Oh yes, zipper merge! I live in NM, where drivers tend to move over as soon as they see the “lane closed ahead sign,” leaving hundreds of feet of empty road on that side and a traffic jam on the other. The NM highway department has been posting signs urging people to zipper merge, and it’s gradually catching on, but there are still yahoos who will block you if you try it.
the dirty looks and honks I get when pulling into the long stretch of empty lane to zipper in, instead of waiting like sheep in the lonnng line always makes me laugh, so that I don’t cry…I cannot be the only one in my town who was taught that zippering in is much faster for EVERYONE and that’s it’s a thing? sigh. The “dumbing down of America” realllly worked.
No elbows on the table, chew with your lips shut, don’t make annoying mouth noises when you chew, ask “May I be excused?” when you’re finished with your meal, and always push your chair in. I wonder though how much of our table manner rules came simply out of my mom’s own irritations… as a wife and a mother now, I’m always irritated when my husband or kids have food on their faces or chew with their lips open. Does this come from my upbringing, or as a highly sensitive person, an I just wired this way?? I will add though, if my husband could learn to chew with his lips shut (most of the time), then ANYONE can. Haha.
Not at all! This is a necessary and important etiquette basic!!!!! Open mouthed chewing and speaking leads to much, much worse things happening! Train them right, save the rest of us!!!
It is not a couch -it is a sofa. One does not pull the curtains-one draws the curtains. If there is one remaining cookie or piece of candy or anything you do not take it, but offer it to everyone else first. My husband always just nabs the last of whatever is going, and it makes me crazy!
Always open the drivers side door from the inside if the driver helps you into the passenger’s side first (date etiquette but I do this now with my family/kids too). Don’t start eating at a restaurant until everyone at your table has received their food, don’t put elbows on the table, if someone calls and asks if you’re available/home answer “speaking” or “this is she” (still trying to break myself of this with telemarketers), if trying to merge in traffic and someone lets you in always wave as a thank you afterward…so many unwritten rules. I think I could list 30 more that are ingrained from my childhood but I’ll stop with these few!
Make your bed as soon as you wake up. Always say goodbye when you leave the house. Turn off the light when you leave a room. Don’t say “Shut up!”
Ohgoshyes to the “shut up” rule! It’s cringey just to read it!
Alway write thank-you notes. Remember people’s birthdays. Don’t leave half-finished coke cans around the house.
I cannot leave a bathroom without replacing the empty toilet paper roll. My mom always walked up to veterans (you could tell by the hat) and said “thank you for your service.” She never taught me to do that, but I caught it. She used to say that most of those men (because they were all old men) served because they didn’t have a choice, that deserved a thank you. The first time my oldest son walked up to a very old Vet, shook his hand, and said “thank you for your service, sir” I about lost it.
Our family does this with veterans as well! The older vets are mostly Vietnam Veterans and aside from going through unspeakable atrocities at war, they were also largely shunned when they returned home. It feels like the smallest way to pay them some kindness in this lifetime.
I was raised to do this too! Also- my parents always insist on using veteran owned small businesses if given the option- it is important to show our support for our vets!
Use people’s names, especially in the service industry. Often they are wearing name tags so it’s easy to add “Have a nice day, Brenda!” or “Thank you, Tom!”. I think this was a holdover from my parents’ time as Dale Carnegie instructors (he wrote the book “How to Win Friends and Influence People”) and you better believe we learned about conversation stacks and tricks for remembering people’s names. I’m grateful for their example!
My mom always did this too! And she would unabashedly ask how to pronounce it if she wasn’t sure. “Tell me how to say your name” she’d say, and then she’d repeat after they said it. It was very important to her to get people’s names right.
I work in the service industry and hate this forever and so do all my colleagues :)
Alice, thanks for your input! I’ve always wondered if it was creepy!
This is so nice – you see them as a person
1. Turn off the lights if you’re not in a room. 2. Pan handles should never be sticking out over the side of a range, and never set flammable items on a stovetop even if the burners are off (it’s not a countertop!).
Yes!!!!!
2 things which came from lots of time spent with my grandmothers: 1. Never say “do you need a drink/snack/anyrhing” when offering guests – always say “would you like a…”. It’s not about whether someone needs something, it’s whether they would enjoy it. 2. My other grandmother would never criticise something, the worst she would say is “it wasn’t very special” or “I’m sure there are people who would like that sort of thing”. That’s when you know she HATES something, and I find myself doing the same thing.
I love these. I’ve noticed the same on number1, and it gives me joy when people say yes to a sparkling water or whatever.
I can relate to your grandma. If we hated something as kids we were taught never to say that or let it show in our facial expressions. Instead, we would say “it’s not my favorite” if questioned. I still do that. Lol
“Don’t chew like a cow!” My mom was pretty intense about this one. We weren’t allowed chewing gum for a long time, and then when we were, it was only okay if she couldn’t tell it was there. Sometimes my husband chews with his mouth open and I’m utterly horrified.
Same!
Keep your elbows off the table Don’t talk with your mouth full Don’t eat with your mouth open Always say excuse me when walking in front, an adult Very strict about table manners, my parents never missed a misstep.
At a round table, always eat from the left and drink from the right! I went to a fancy gala recently and the person to the right accused me of trying to drink out her glass, haha. Of course, it’s also bad manners to lecture someone about etiquette at the table, so I tried to say breezily, “Actually, you always drink from the right at a round table!”
It has nothing to do with table shape. Make a little B and a little D with your index finger and thumb (mentally, in your head, not literally with your fingers). This tells you which side your “bread” plate and “drink” are on. Cotillion 101.
My parents were strict in a number of ways but especially when it came to respect. Never call for them from a different room, never refer to them using a third-person pronoun, and always refer to other people’s parents as “Mrs.”, “Ms.”, “Mr.”, etc. Cut to me meeting my now-husband’s physician parents and completely short-circuiting. Two doctors, one last name, and absolutely no way to tell them apart. I couldn’t bring myself to use their first names, so I spent years relying on really good eye contact.
Don’t talk when you’re at the movies! It’s not your living room and people paid money to experience the movie at its best, not to listen to you and your friends. (You can always make big eyes with your friends or squeeze their arms if you need to share a moment.) : )
Anybody do very silly things because of an arbitrary rule your parents introduced? We moved from a sandy dessert to a more rural place when I was around 10. My mom was always amazed at the miles and miles of corn fields near the main roads. She commented on it all the time – so much so that her three preteen kids started ignoring her. So my dad instituted a rule: You MUST agree with mom when she comments on the corn. Whenever my mom would comment on the corn fields, he would cue us like an orchestra conductor as we intoned: “That’s a lot of corn, Mom!” For all the rebellion and big feelings we had over our teen years, we never really tried to balk this rule – even if we complied by groaning the words. So now, twenty years later, as I drive around the same roads as an adult, my husband, who was not present for any of this but folded into it because of my own silliness, glance at each other as we see the cornfields and exclaim to each other “That’s a lot of corn!”
What a sweet memory!
This is adorable. I can feel the love.
Honestly, beautiful!! It’s the small things, and I love that you’re keeping up the tradition!!
This is sooooo cute and funny!
Wow this felt like it was straight out of your memoir. Thanks for sharing!
Tearing up at this
I always say, “Look at all the beautiful trees!” on our drive up to Tahoe. My kids had a coffee mug made for me with the quote and a picture of me standing in the forest. :)
Oh my gosh Cat that is the sweetest! x
I LOVE this. We live surrounded by mountains on 3 sides and they never look the same. I tell my kids to look at how pretty the mountains are at least twice a day. They always look and agree.
I grew up in Colorado, but my parents grew up in New York. My dad never took the picturesque Colorado views for granted – he had a common refrain: “Look at that view! Some kids go their whole lives and never see views like this! Only in movies and on postcards!” Eventually, all my Dad had to say was “look at that view,” and my brother and I could complete the sentiment!
So many that I have internalized and probably don’t even realize! A few I can remember.. -adults don’t eat fast food. -parents don’t fart in front of their kids. A cloud of dad’s pipe smoke over their heads is fine though. -throwing away food is beyond. I want to cry when I see food fights in movies, it is so incredibly disrespectful. If I don’t want it, I try and give it away, and if I can’t, I leave it til it’s moldy, then throw away. Eek haha.
On road trips I must call out any cows or horses I see – “Cow!” “Horse!” No clearing dishes or leaving the table until everyone is finished eating. Shower right after getting out of the pool. Send physical thank you notes for any gifts.
Your first one reminded me of Maggie Smith’s ‘Poem Beginning with a Retweet’ :)
“Don’t leave the grocery cart randomly in the parking lot, return it back to the grocery cart corral” was my Mother’s mantra. To this day, I walk my cart back no matter what the weather, no matter what my time crunch.
FOR LARRY!
My kids (7&9) know we return carts for Larry!
Becca with the deep cut! I love how this beloved blog (are there even any other blogs left??!) has decades deep community and LORE.
Even in Germany, where I HAVE TO return my cart in order to get my one euro coin back, I think about Larry.
Returning carts for Larry lore for newer folks: https://cupofjo.com/2018/08/03/lovely-weekend-link-list/
We always had to place our napkins on our laps at meals and my sister and I even did it in the school cafeteria. I assume most of us Gen X Americans were taught this but maybe not? Also, my mom lives with me and still reminds us all to “bring a sweater” everywhere we go in case we get cold. I still follow these rules. 😊
We were trained to answer the phone, “XYZ residence, ABC speaking.” No elbows on the table. Make your bed. Always yes please and no thank you. And I always write handwritten thank you notes. I cannot abandon this, no matter how hard I try.
Make your bed. Sort your laundry. Don’t tell ethnic jokes. No farting in church. Born in the 60s, so seatbelts were optional, ashtrays were ubiquitous, and McDonald’s was fancy, and name brand groceries just for holidays.
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My parents were immigrants and absorbed a lot of suburban American culture upon arrival. So I became accustomed to waving when driving past neighbors in their cars. And only drink water when eating out. My parents enforced this out of frugality and I don’t 100% follow it, but I always digest better and am more hydrated when I stick to it. I don’t begrudge the rest of the family their drinks though, since my spouse did not grow up like this.
The Northern California “pinched lips” no-teeth half smile when passing strangers anywhere. Sidewalk, hallway, trails, etc. I know it’s not needed but I’ll probably be doing it till the day I die.
I love reading these. I was recently talking about a similar topic of “what things did you believe from childhood well into adulthood” because I still forget whistling is not *actually* illegal, just illegal when my mother is in earshot. Hahaha. I have definitely taken the following rules into adulthood though: – Leaving the porch light on until the last person gets home – Calling on the way home from anywhere to see if anyone needs anything. My parents still do this and I think it’s so sweet. – Always bringing something to a party/gathering (and always having more than enough “real” food at a party/gathering, never just snacks!) – Showing up early/on time for any scheduled event
Hahahaha, the porch light — I am moth-phobic (like, limbic system freeze/panic) so my sweet family NEVER leaves the lights on for me in the summer! They love me!
Midge, that is true love! Haha. I am also flying-anything phobic, but thankfully although the porch light was on, the side door was the one unlocked. Bugs stayed far enough away for safety! :)
Ahh, the porch light! I tend to forget about it as an apartment dweller, but when I’m back home at my Dad’s, this 40 year old feels cozy and welcome every time that flood light shines until I get in.
I work at home, husband doesn’t. Every work day “leaving now, need anything?” This is my opportunity to say “ice cream wouldn’t get wasted?” And the heads up so puppy doesn’t run into the garage when he drives in.
I always say “Pardon?” absolutely never “What?” or even worse, “Huh?” I’ve been mocked for it pretty ruthlessly my whole life, but it was never an option in my house to say anything else. Raised in the US by a Canadian/British family, so I always assumed it was cultural? Maybe someone else can shine a light on this. But honestly? Now as an adult, hearing “Huh?” is like nails on a chalkboard!
My impression is it’s a British thing, because it’s a recurring joke in “Bridget Jones’s Diary” that Bridget’s mother chides her for saying “what” when she should say “Pardon”. When I’ve heard it in the US I’ve more often heard “Pardon me?”
Haha when I say “pardon?” to my husband he always thinks it sounds more passive aggressive than “what?”
I was raised by wolves, but still cannot imagine ever saying ‘huh?’ just imagining that makes me cringe. I always say ‘pardon’ or ‘excuse me’ and I honestly don’t know when or how I learned this!
Definitely cultural. Pardon is polite, anything else RUDE!
I’m Canadian – my parents made me say pardon. :)
You should google “u and non-u vocabulary” to help understand this. “Pardon?” is very middle class, in the UK . It’s what the lower classes would say to try and sound more posh. The upper class would say “what?” or “sorry?”. A bit like putting the milk in the cup first, before the tea.
Also a Canadian and always say pardon. I live in Australia with an Aussie and two small children and I’m constantly correcting my husband from saying ‘hey?’ and my 4 and 6 year old from saying ‘what’? or ‘huh’? I didn’t realise pardon or pardon me was regional (I think it’s simply good manners), I just thought it was my family :D
What or huh? Sounds rather rude to me. Pardon or excuse me or sorry? Sounds more polite. I am Canadian and I think that is the general guideline here.
Oh my gosh. If my mom doesn’t understand something I text or post on Facebook, she says “Huh?”. Totally nails on a chalkboard. It irritates me so much that I don’t respond until she asks an actual question.
My 2 year old granddaughter always says “huh” because her parents say it. I’m trying to push her towards “excuse me” when she’s with me because it grinds on my nerves. So far unsuccessfully because I only have her one day a week!
We were taught to say what, because pardon was middle class. My teacher in 2nd grade was beside herself with rage when I said what!
When I was a teenager, I babysat a 4-year old who always said “pardon me” (not “what???”, like I did) and I loved it so much that I adopted it.
My parents always had my brother and I call when we went to a friend’s house to let them know we arrived safely. My husband and I do this with each other and I still make my friends let me know once they’ve arrived at their destination. Once I asked my friend if he got home okay, and at the time he was housesitting just down the street from my house. He texted me and said “…I walked like 5 minutes away to get here.” And I said “I still need to know you got there safely!!”
Turn off the lights when you leave a room. Say please and thank you. Keep things picked up and put away.
If you tell someone you’re going to do something, you’d better do it. Swearing is when you’re not creative enough to come up with something better. Only bored people are bored.
I think this should be “only borING people are bored”
My dearest Dad (may he rest in peace) always left allllllll of the lights on if I was out with friends growing up. Porch light, front house lights, living room lights, everything. Once I came home, I would turn off all of the lights so that when he woke up to pee or whatever during the night, he could see when I was home. I don’t have kids, but I do this for my husband if he’s out or coming home late from a trip. It makes you feel safe and welcome walking into a brightly lit home even if it’s late, and it’s a little stroke of genius for those of you that have kids – you will know if they’re ever late for their curfew! (I guess this may only apply to those of you well hydrated folks that have to get up to pee in the night which I do, a lot)
Wait until everyone has their food before eating! Nothing strikes fear in my heart like “ your entrees might come out at different times!”
Yes this! And also at restaurants, politely decline if the server comes to take away anyone’s plate before everyone is finished eating. No clearing dishes until everyone is done!
one rule I always remember was my grandma telling me “naps are better without your britches on” (britches being pants) PERIENNIAL ADVICE FR ;)
My kinda gal.
My children’s preschool teachers have a rule – “We do not Yuck someone else’s Yum!” The negative opinion of another’s food related joy or helpful recommendation is not only unkind, it’s immature. If preschoolers can manage witholding their “ewww”, so can adults.
I always tell my (sports-loving and very competitive) boys that we only cheer for things, never against. You can cheer loudly for your favorite team, player, or contestant, but we do not seek negative outcomes for anyone else. I like the focus on positive energy & I hope they realize that this mindset is helpful in many facets of life. :)
A friend of mine ( the best 2nd grade teacher ever, Mollie) taught me we don’t say eww we say ohhh.
Not only can preschoolers learn this one so well, but they can also learn not to comment on people’s bodies too!! So adults absolutely can! As a teacher, it’s a joy and delight to hear 3-5 say to each other “I love your hair clippies today!” Or “oooh, a spider man shirt. I love spider man too!” Or “NEW SHOES!!”
Do not ever touch any book, newspaper, any piece of paper with writing on it with your feet. Why? Because it is knowledge and you insult the goddess of knowledge if you touch paper with your feet. If you accidentally tread on paper or touch with with your feet, you apologize by quickly dabbing that paper/book with your fingers and then dabbing your forehead and chest… this gesture is hard to explain but universally recognized by all desis.
100%. I’m Desi Muslim (I noticed you said goddess) and I love how this is universal throughout the subcontinent no matter what faith you are. Muslims believe the first word the Angel Gabriel spoke to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was “Iqra” (Read in Arabic). Knowledge is revered and considered holy and you never touch writing with your feet. If you do, you touch the book or paper to your heart or head.
Yes, I love how universal this gesture is, regardless of religion. Same with wasting or insulting food; my family would have a fit at the idea of the popular movie trope of a cafeteria food fight.
Door opening, always. Such a simple courtesy. Even now, almost 70…when walking through a shop selling glassware, hands behind my back or in my pockets. My mother was adamant. I physically cannot drop litter. Again, my mother: keep it in your pocket till we get home. I was taught to ask if I could leave the table after a meal. And did the same with my children. It’s all about manners. A little goes a long way.
– The person who arrives or enters a room says ‘good morning’ or ‘hi’ FIRST – Saying ‘May I please have ?’ and ‘Thank you’ always. – We always treat people of service with courtesy and respect! Their jobs make our lives easier and there is absolutely no excuse for being pedantic or rude to them. – Treat children with the same respect and kindness as adults/elderly. Always. – Turn off the lights after leaving a room – Say yes to new experiences and tings; you never know where in life they may take you. – Sending or writing a card (birthday, appreciation, thank you, condolences, graduation, holidays) shows you care. – And lastly, as a child of immigrants, always offer food to people you welcome into your home :)
Omg yes to offering food or water or a drink! And just giving them as people will say no! Its so ingrained in me! Sometimes when I go to others homes and am not offered am surprised
“Mean jokes are still mean.” Relevant at all stages of life.
“It’s only funny if EVERYONE is laughing.”
My mom taught us to always notice the sky. Appreciate the colors, see the shapes of the clouds, watch a jet flying through, let the sun hit your face. Not only is it a lesson to slow down but it opens up your chest and shoulders and neck. It’s a lovely thing, even when it’s raining.
I love this so so much! x
I love this one. Most of the comments are about being polite, so important. But this one… this one is about the soul. And joy. This is life
My grandma, who found herself living in a dusty oil town in west Texas after being raised in midwestern “high society” demanded that we, her grandchildren born into her same unfortunate circumstance would ENUNCIATE. I’m convinced it helped my spelling but did no favors for my social life.
This is my favorite comment.
Your grandma and my (late) dad would have been friends. When I said “for” but it came out like “fur” he would calmly tell me to try again. He was raised on a tobacco farm in rural KY in the 50s, and took language very seriously. He had next to no accent. He had worked hard to get rid of it because he thought it made him sound like he wasn’t an advocate for racial equality. (He was white.)
I…have to slightly push back on the door holding thing, as this is one of my bugaboos. I don’t know what the exact right distance is, but I actually think it’s inconsiderate to hold the door open for someone who is not behind you in the immediate vicinity, but is instead a ways back. The reason I say this is because, as a polite human, if I see you waiting to hold the door for me, but I’m not *right* there, I feel the obligation to hurry it up and jog over so you don’t have to wait for me, when really, I want to keep my pace and I’m perfectly okay opening the door myself. HOWever, if you are going through a door and there is someone immediately behind you, yes, of course, hold the door so it doesn’t bonk them in the face. There are always extenuating circumstances of course: If someone has their hands full, for instance, but if someone is just meandering along, or checking their phone and they are in no risk of getting a door to the face, I’m not waiting.
Yes, Susie! I am a reformed door holder who one day realized it’s actually not that nice to hold the door for the exact reasons you noted. If someone is not right behind me I may give it an extra push so it closes slower but I no longer stop and hold.
Adding my name to this list! I neither want to make someone have to jog over to get thru a door being held open, nor am I picking up my pace. Solidarity!
I wrote this also, somewhere in the thread. What if the person is not able-bodied and has to walk slowly? It puts the burden on the person to move faster.
Best childhood lesson from my dad: you can quit anything that doesn’t feel right on a good day, not a bad one and you can’t let your team down. A particularly hard soccer practice where your muscles are sore? Not a quitting day. The day your team won the game? Throw your cleats in the trash at the end of the season if you’re still in a quitting mood. An annoyingly repetitive school musical rehearsal? Not a quitting day. After a standing ovation on the night of the final performance? Exit stage left and you’ll never have to hear curtain up again.
This is so good, I am copying it. My thanks to your dad!
This is incredible advice.
This is so wise. I took a screenshot because I want to use this! I remember Larry and the shopping carts and I hope I remember this, too!
He was the very best dad. Gone 11 years ago today but his voice is still strong in my head.
Pee before. Universally. Pee before bed, pee before getting in the car. I am 56 years old and teach yoga and meditation; I still Pee Before every session all day :)
Haha yes! My dad’s line was always, “whenever you have an opportunity to pee, take it.” If I ever go to a restaurant, I ALWAYS pee before leaving, even if I don’t feel like I have to, because on the way home, you may not be able to find a bathroom!
And pee after sex :).
I’ve had to do bladder retraining as a result of getting used to peeing when my bladder isn’t actually full. (This habit has caused me to wake up multiple times at night–not great.) The pelvic floor PTs who do the bladder retraining (I’ve done it multiple times…) advise *not* to “pee whenever you have the opportunity.”
My dad taught all of his kids to “finish strong.” The ending to the hard work put in on just about anything, because as my dad has reminded us over and over, they don’t remember what you did at the beginning, what you do last is what leaves the lasting impact. I’ve applied it in work situations countless times, and I’m now applying it to parenting. I’ve got older children and one who’s still young, and I have reminded myself that she deserves the same good mom to show up for her that her brothers had, even though that mom was a long younger and had a lot more energy! I know I will never finish being a parent, but I do want to make sure I finish raising her to adulthood as strong as I parented the older ones. She may wish that I wasn’t waiting up for her at night like I was her brothers, but if she has a problem with it she can bring it up with grandpa for his good advise all those years ago! :)
My dad had a somewhat similar mantra which was “don’t swallow the elephant and choke on the tail.” It reminds me to follow-through completely, mind the details (especially the small ones), and close the loop.
My family taught me that you have to pick up people who are visiting from the airport. If someone made the trip out to see you, showing up when they arrive is the greatest way to return kindness. No uber/Lyft, taxis, airport buses. Doesn’t matter time of day. My family is rigid about this. I flew across the country to be with my ex’s family on Christmas Day years ago – no pickup, gotta uber. Turned out that wasn’t the right person for me for many reasons but that felt like a harbinger of what was to come! My now husband was raised the same way I was, and his family lived rurally, so they would be driving a minimum of 90 minutes to pick someone up from the airport. We always pick up and drop off anyone who visits us, and each other when we have to travel for work.
Yes! I don’t understand the discourse around not picking people up at the airport. Like, my parents would never make me Uber from the airport to their house. My dad or my brother will come get me. Caveat that I can’t pick up/take you to the airport because I don’t drive, but I find other ways to be a villager.
On the one hand – it is SOOO nice when the people you are visiting come and pick you up at the airport and I enjoy doing it when I’m able. That being said, I live in an area where traffic can be very bad and public transportation is easy and safe most of the time. So if people are coming in peak traffic times – we often recommend taking public transit. I will say this has been a flash point with me and my husband as I am always more willing to get stuck in traffic on the way to/from the airport. He doesn’t think it makes sense when there are other options. However – when his 20 something niece and her beau recently visited – they wanted to take the train – I think they felt empowered being able to navigate. So lots of angles for this.
I often need the time between landing and arriving at your house to put myself back together. Mentally, physically. Please do not pick me up! Let me peacefully arrive, under my own steam, ready to see you.
Lori, I’m with you that if there is transit there’s no reason not to take it…our airport has local rail and regional rail going right to it and it’s very safe, affordable, intuitive and easy to use so I’d way rather use transit than trouble someone for a ride. But Summer, I agree that picking up your loved ones is much better than Uber or Lyft!
I agree with Lori that there are different angles on this. My family used to always pick up and drop off at the airport. But with parents now elderly and guests often arriving during my work hours (or a late flight when I work in the morning etc) we’ve relaxed those rigid rules. We decide what to do based on what makes sense and we decide together. We are all just doing our best and rigid expectations are not helpful to our family.
I wonder why this one struck a nerve with people? It wasn’t a judgement at all if you don’t do it, the prompt for this post is literally what did you learn in childhood that you carry on with you? This just became part of my value system and I find it comforting. I’ve lived in big cities (Seattle) and never minded doing it in traffic. It’s just what works for me and I also found it very nice that my husband was aligned on this one.
Summer – not sure why you think it struck a nerve! No one seems upset about your comment. They’re just sharing alternatives and the way they handle it!
Our family doesn’t have a car! (And we are a 20-minute Lyft ride from the airport.) And so we generally don’t pick people up at the airport. (When we had visitors from overseas, though, I took a Lyft to the airport to pick them up and then ordered a return Lyft to get us all home!)
I’ll push back against the “holding the door open and waiting” thing. Unless they are a few steps away, waiting on someone puts the burden on them to speed up so as not to keep YOU waiting. It’s a nice gesture, but certain people don’t want that pressure, and others may not be able to walk quickly due to mobility or other issues.
I get that!
If it’s dark out and a friend leaves my house, or we part ways after dinner, I tell them they need to let me know they go home safe and sound. These are grown women, some single, some going home to a house full of kids, some going home to a spouse, but they text me nonetheless!
Not etiquette related, but the childhood lesson that has stuck with me most is being a frequent, responsible patron of public libraries. I will never get over how amazing it is that they exist.
Same here Julie! From a very young age I was amazed by them and never let go.
YES. I never buy books. I always put them on hold at the library. Saves money and trees. I hope they never die out.
Smiling at whoever is walking towards me and saying “how are you” or “nice day” – eleven years in NYC eventually beat it out of me, bc everyone here thought I was crazy. But I grew up in Central CA and hiking a lot & it still feels so weird to not greet everyone.
I had relatives visiting me in NYC this weekend who commented on this as well. I myself always say hi and smile when I am somewhere less populated / more rural, but we have *so many* people here, and folks are trying to live their lives. We just can’t say hi to *everyone* who crosses our paths. But there are definitely times / places when we do say hi – when I am walking in the park and see people I always see every morning, when I see someone I know from the neighborhood walking in my neighborhood (or another neighborhood!). And when someone needs something, they will interrupt someone nearby to ask for help, info, directions. We will also band together when something unexpected is happening (train delay, road closure, accident, someone in trouble) to make sure that people know what is going on and that everyone is safe. We are not an unfriendly people, and we’re very helpful. We just have different rules for social norms and navigation because there are so many of us in such tight quarters. Fundamentally, people need their privacy in public here, and the reflexive saying hello to everyone you see interrupts that.
I’m from NYC but live in the burbs now and was unconsciously making eye contact/smiling at people on my walk from the office to Grand Central Station recently. I confused the hell out of the male commuters who had identical panicked looks of ‘oh my god, do I know you? how do I know you?’. The women just rolled with it, ha.
Midwesterner here – and I ALWAYS say please and thank you. Always. Bus driver – thank you when entering and exiting. Ordering food, rather at a counter or sitting down – please and thank you. I even say thank you every time a server brings something to the table. Someone held a door open? Thank you! Speaking of, I also hold the door for people and I am so miffed then they don’t at least nod in acknowledgment. Or smile. Something? It’s really not hard to be polite. Truly. It makes mundane, daily interactions so much more pleasant.
When I hold the door for someone and they don’t acknowledge it, I say “You’re welcome!” in a super cheery loud voice, as if they had thanked me profusely. I don’t know, it makes me feel better.
Never drive the speed limit in the left lane of the highway. That’s the PASSING lane, if you aren’t passing everyone on your right…get the heck out of the left lane. So aggravating!
This! Again, especially on the East coast! ;) Every time I am behind someone in the left lane going way too slow, I go around them, pull up next to them, directly look at them (carefully while driving, of course). When I pull around them back into the left lane, they get over 99% of the time!
YES!!!! I moved to the West Coast and NO ONE abides by this rule! It’s S H O C K I N G.
Hi Emily! I’m so curious where in the West Coast you live, because in the Bay Area and all along highway 5 down to L.A., everyone drives WAY beyond the speed limit in the left lane lol!
I thought is was a generational thing. I live in the Bay Area and I feel like people used to understand this and now they don’t. The other one is yield to the person on your right , don’t just go whenever you feel like it: or sit there because you don’t understand this very basic driving rule.
Can we as a group ingrain this life lesson to our current children, grandchildren, or children in our lives that we love PRETTY PLEASE: It is not okay to use speaker phone in public, it is not okay to FaceTime in public, it is not okay to play the sound on your video game in public, it is not ok to watch your video, TikTok, Reel or otherwise have sound coming out from your phone in public. Please do not let this become normal! It BLOWS MY MIND that people do this with complete and total disregard for the social contract that we are all sharing public space.
To be fair, this isn’t the kid’s fault. Parents are raising them this way. They are doing it as well – someone today was playing something out loud on their phone during their lunch in the break room at my office. There was a man in the airport loudly playing music from his phone this past weekend when I was traveling. It’s clear the adults of those kids don’t care.
Can we make it a federal law?! My husband has to hold me back from causing a scene sometimes haha
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@Sarah Levy – I am not complaining about the behavior of children! I am hoping that by teaching our children that this is not okay we can head off this unbelievably lazy and entitled behavior that is becoming normalized among all ages. And if you do this on an airplane, a curse on both your houses.
I’ve decided to start a non-profit group that will provide free earbuds to everyone listening/talking on their phone with the speaker on. So far, everyone I’ve mentioned it to has loved the idea.
Yes! But unfortunately we need to start with all the grandparents – they are the biggest offenders in my life! 😂 My mom and father in-law drive me up the wall doing this!!
Yes. On British trains this is ubiquitous and so bad mannered. I recently travelled on French trains and the polite request by staff not to do this was universally obeyed. Much more pleasant. The lack of awareness of people takes my breath away.
Yes cosign this! I heard a theory that this is becoming more prevalent because so many people see people on reality tv talking on their phones this way (so that it can be recorded) and just think this is how we should talk on phones.
Amen to this!
1000 times yes! I was recently traveling (on a bus and a plane on separate trips) and it is shocking how many young people do this! I’m only 37 and it was still driving me nuts. I did not sign up to hear your phone by simply being out in the world.
THIS 100%! Notice the people around you! They don’t care to hear your conversation or what you are watching!! You are NOT in your living room so don’t act like you are. It’s common courtesy.
the trick is to acknowledge/attempt to add to the phone call/video that you are politely trying to ignore. ex- lady on the phone” I’m on the way home, I got a drink from starbucks” you- ooh what did you get? person on the other line “what are you thinking for dinner?” you- how about lasagna (with genuine excitement) lady on the phone- looks at you weirdly and takes the phone off speaker it only works if its not coming across as passive aggressive, so only do it if you have an incredible poker face
I usually just ask directly: “Would you mind turning off the sound or using earphones?” Most of the time people understand and accommodate. But I wish I didn’t have to ask in the first place.
1. Make the bed first thing. “Made bed makes the day” a semi, but nonsensical instruction from my 80s dad. 2. When fam or friends visit say “It was a treat to see you!” per my southern Nana who wanted guests to know they sweetened the day. 3. Add Miss/Mr to first names for those senior to you which has now changed to Auntie or Uncle from marrying into an Indian family 4. Please and thank you before and after all spoken words. See also: southern, female, and trying to model appreciation for two small people.
I’ve heard “a tidy bed is a tidy mind”
last one out turns out the light. the dishes aren’t done til the counters are clean.
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Re holding the door open – reminds me of one of my favorite Ted Lasso snippets where he holds the door open for an awkwardly long time for Rebecca 🥰 what a prince
I skipped a play rehearsal to go trick or treating with a friend on Halloween… without telling my parents. It was perhaps the height of my rebellion. Rather than focusing their lecture on the lie of omission, the delivered a world-class lecture on honoring your commitments to others (an army major and a professor exercising their greatest strengths). I still struggle to reschedule a haircut! But truly, it was a good lesson—I know I’ll give a similar one to my girls one day.
When I have to make a call and I’m not absolutely positive the person who answered is the person I’d like to speak with, I was taught to say, “May I please speak with (name)?”. Although most numbers are personal mobile phone numbers now, I find I am still doing this when calling people.
Wave when a car lets you over. Nobody does this anymore and it makes me crazy!
I do this and my girls are always like “why are you waving so much” and I just reaaaaaally want the other car to know I appreciate it!
I live in CA and drivers are generally very good about yielding to pedestrians in crosswalks. I always wave thanks when they do – even when cars are stopped at stop signs and waiting for me and my slow senior dog to cross. However – on a recent vacation in Greece – my husband was constantly reminding me to not give a open palm wave to drivers as that sends the OPPOSITE message. My brain was struggling so much with wanting to acknowledge/thank but forgetting how to appropriate acknowledge without giving people the equivalent of the bird. Eeks
Yes! 100% this. My boys and I call it “the friendly wave” and if we don’t get the friendly wave, we yell “OK, jackass!” at them. 😂 It’s a fun family tradition.
When riding in the passenger seat you always have to help look to the right when pulling out and say, “It’s okay my way” when it’s clear. My mom ALWAYS did that so when I was growing up I seriously thought it was a rule!
And you have to leave the porch light on for anyone who’s coming home at night. My husband wasn’t raised with that “rule” and it, honestly, would hurt my feelings if it wasn’t left on for me!
Totally unrelated but I mentioned to my mum yesterday that there was a new Spiderman movie, and she replied “oh yes, I think Zendaya’s husband is in it.” “As in… Spiderman?”. Ha!
Spider-Man is his maiden name.
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Lauren O, 😂😂😂 Stealing this.
This is amazing.
🤣 Go mom!
Really late to reply to this, but it reminded me of a comment my mother in law made. She was discussing a film that was being filmed in our home town of Glasgow, Scotland and how it starred “Angelina Jolie’s husband.” It was Brad Pitt 😂
If you hear a siren and you’re standing on the corner waiting to cross the street DO NOT MOVE until you have located the siren and the direction it’s heading. If it’s an emergency vehicle that needs at the right of way DO NOT CROSS until it has gone by. If you’re driving, do whatever you need to do to get out of its path. I live in Manhattan and people seem to not understand this, both pedestrians and drivers. They cross the streets where ambulances need to get by, and they don’t pull over or free up the intersection.
Yes, NYC is notorious this way. Where I grew up in Ohio, everyone pulls over to the side of the street and waits until the ambulance goes by.
Often in New York there are one lane, one way streets, so there isn’t a place to pull over — we do try so hard!
I have to turn off the lights whenever I leave an empty room. I can’t not do it.
Yes!!! My kids and husband always leave the lights on haha and it drives me bats!
Me too. My Dad always yelled “Don’t waste my electricity!” and I can’t not hear that. :)
Wiping down sinks after washing my face or washing hands. And absolutely no toothpaste in the sink. My mother was a stickler for this and apparently it rubbed off onto me. I still even flinch a little bit after washing my hands in a public bathroom with a hand dryer instead of paper towels, with nothing to dry off the sink afterwards lol.
My grandmother always told me, anyone who takes 15 min of their time to do something for you, gets a hand written thank you note. Period. To this day, I’m trying to keep that dying art alive. I had a Great Aunt, Iva, who would chain smoke ciggys while simultaneously giving my cousin + I etiquette lessons. Some seemed obvious being from the South (yes mam/ no mam, Mr. / Mrs ________) while others seemed dated, I still notice. • Never smoke in public (looking back this is funny bc it wasn’t don’t smoke, it was never smoke in public • A lady is never drunk in public (oooopsie!) • A lady never re applies lipstick in front of men or in public • When you meet a man, notice if he puts his hands out to shake yours. You would think it’s polite, but she warned us of this red flag. She said a man should not extend his hand, he should wait for the invitation from the woman to extend her hand to welcome him into her space. I notice this all the time now. • Accessories max out at 13. I still count before heading out the door (unless it’s a themed event, I make an exception). If I need to wiggly in an extra, I could count earrings as one, she would count them as two! We were taught when you drop someone off, always make sure don’t pull away until you see them inside with a light. I have called/ texted friends before to say TURN THE LIGHT ON SO I CAN LEAVE! Strive to leave places cleaner than you found them.. nature, your room, hotel rooms, friends house, etc.. My granddaddy was a man of few words, but he was wise. Some things that have stuck… • You got to live and let live. • You think you know, but you don’t know • Many hands make light work (especially when we complained about helping clean up!) • Don’t borrow worry
Thirteen accessories?! I’m so curious where this rule comes from and how people can even get up to 13. I’m not sure I can even count 13 accessories – earrings, necklace, bracelet, ring, watch, belt, scarf, hat, hair ribbon/clip, glasses/sunglasses – that’s 10, and I can’t really imagine a scenario where I would wear all of those. Do shoes and bags count as accessories, considering they are essential? Would love to understand more of this logic!
Ha, well currently, I have on 5 stacked tiny bands on my right ring finger, 2 on my left ring finger, 3 bangles, earrings (2), small gold chain I wear everyday, then a fun necklace + my watch. That’s 12! She would count a belt or scarf (but not include purse or shoes in the count) Ha, I actually never questions it or looked into, but Google just told me… The “rule of 13 accessories” is a vintage styling guideline (often associated with the late 1920s/1930s) stating that an outfit is perfectly accessorized when it contains exactly 13 individual pieces (some include the count of shoes and purses/ wallets, others do it)
@ CL – LOL! My very stylish MIL typically wears a ring on every finger except her thumbs AND multiple earrings.
CL, You must not be from the South. I am very much a minimalist now but the 13 seems valid there.
This whole post is amazing. I love it so much.
CL, it’s a Southern thing. Traditionally, Southern women can’t set foot outside their door without being dressed up, made up, and accessorized up!
Somewhere along the way (not my parents), I learned to say “thank you kindly.” I can give no explanation but I do it all the time now. And I totally agree with Liz, WALK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET OR STAIRWAY.
Where are you from? I was raised in Illinois and my dad says “thank you kindly.”
Apparently, it dates back to the 16th century! https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2024/07/thank-you-kindly-2.html
No licking of fingers during a meal. Never. Nope, not even for BBQ.
I agree with this. It grosses me out when people lick their fingers. USE A NAPKIN.
When guests leave my house, I stand in the front yard and wave–even if it’s a neighbor I see regularly dropping something off.
this is so sweet!
Absolutely yes to the “wave off”! It feels so rude not to. Growing up we would wave from our kitchen window to send someone off. When my younger brother first started driving my mom and I would be by the window to wave to him but he spent SO much time futzing with his sunglasses, hair, mirrors, whatever that we’d give up! He lost his “wave off” privileges.
https://deannadikeman.com/leaving-and-waving I came across a video of this quite some time ago. It was so moving to watch.
Our Utah relatives have a tradition that when family leaves after a visit everyone comes outside, half on each side of the vehicle, windows down and they run around the car while high diving and blowing kisses, as you SLOWLY drive off, everyone running around so everyone gets a slap from everyone. It’s hilarious and madcap and just the best. No one has gotten run over yet. And it saves me from crying because we have to say goodbye.
Whenever people talk of the wave-off send-off, I remember my grandmother.she would always got to the window (or if she was outside, to the drive way) and wave at you till you were out of sight. And we always waved back from the car!